ILR Show Division Governing Board Minutes - December 14, 2010
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ILR Show Division

December 14, 2010

Meeting called to order at 8:05pm EST. Mark Smith, Mary Jo Miller, Kristy Brown, Jan Wassink, Fran Soukup, Pam Jensen Kathi McKinney, Beth Myers, Bill Safreed, Ed Bender, Jim Krowka & Justin Timm present. Larry Steffel was unable to attend the call.

Mary Jo began the meeting by thanking everyone for their participation on the ILR Show Division committees for 2010.

Approval of minutes from November 16, 2010 – approved by email and posted.

National Finals Show Report: presented by Mark Smith, International Finals Event Board Liaison. The IA State Fair people have never made any commitments to Norris and we gave them a deadline of December 10, 2010, to send us a contract to sign. We received no communication from them despite daily calls from Norris and Mark. Mary Jo and Mark have spoken with the NAILE (North American International Livestock Expo) to hold the International Finals there in Louisville, KY in 2011. We are still searching for a venue west of the Mississippi.

 Committee Reports

1.  Rules: presented by Pam. No report.

2.  Performance: presented by Jim. No report.

3.  Finance: presented by Kathi. No report. We need to add another person to run to replace Monica Brown and Larry Steffel has resigned as chairman but wishes to remain on the committee.

4.  Fleece: presented by Fran. Proposals for approval:

Changes to guidebook related to both shorn and fleece on class descriptions:

a)      Single Fleece with Crimp/Crinkle

 (1)      Guard hair is nearly indiscernible

  (2)      Little differentiation between guard hair and undercoat

  (3)      Fleece has crimp and/or crinkle

  (4)      The fleece has loft.

b)      Single Fleece without Crimp/Crinkle

  (1)      Guard hair is nearly indiscernible

  (2)      No crimp,

  (3)      Distinct locks

  (4)      The fleece has loft.

  (5)      Lower density/weight than suri

c)      Suri Fleece

  (1)      Individual, distinct locks

  (2)      No crimp or crinkle

  (3)      Cool, slick hand

  (4)      High luster

  (5)      High density/weight

  (6)      Show management, with the Judge’s agreement

               MAY choose to combine the above divisions when anticipating low numbers of entries.

 Addition of two definitions to the guidebook:

Guard hair – All fleece types will have guard hair to some degree. We see in our classic and double coat llamas a guard hair that is coarser, longer and two fleece types can easily be seen.  The Single, silky and suri may have guard hair that is not easily discernable as being different from the under coat and will appear to be one fleece type.

Undercoat - the soft, down lay of the fleece. It is the most prevalent portion of the fleece.  The undercoat provides warmth for the animal and produces the most luxurious fleece. 

 The addition of defiintions for Lama Fleece Products:


FELTED PRODUCTS – Felted projects need to be durable, well felted, and consistent in thickness, as appropriate for use. Bats of fleece, rovings, and pieces of raw fleece can all be utilized in this discipline. The creativity one can employ in this endeavor is limitless and will enhance the value of your project in the judge’s eyes. The judge will also be looking for originality and difficulty of design besides the overall appearance of your project. Its visual impact and its appropriateness for its intended use will also be considered. This is one of the fiber projects that can be done purely as an art form without any other intended use (wall hangings), so one’s creativity can abound. 

LOCKER HOOKING – Locker Hooking can be done with raw fleece, rovings, bats or yarn, or a combination of these. The proper fiber should be chosen to suit the project. The uniformity and tension of the locker hooking loops should be consistent and the edge finishing should be tidy and well done. Since there is such a wide range of items that can be made with the locker hooking technique, the originality and creativity can certainly enhance a project’s score. The complexity of the design and the overall visual impression will also be strongly considered by the judge.

KNIT, CROCHET OR MACHINE KNIT – A knitted project should first of all have the proper yarn and gauge of yarn chosen. The technique used should be appropriate for the design, The workmanship should include uniform tension of the yarn throughout the project, and the edges need to be neat and consistent. The creativity and originality of the design, along with the final finishing and blocking, will certainly help gain a higher score. Lastly, the visual impact of the whole project should make a positive impression.

 WOVEN PRODUCTS – When starting a weaving project it is important to choose the proper yarn for the warp and the weft, plus having the proper sett. The technique used, edge finishing and the final blocking certainly contribute to the attractiveness of the woven item. There is great opportunity in weaving to express originality and creativity, plus showcasing the difficulty of design to gain the highest scores. In the end, the overall visual or tactile impact of the project can also impress the judge favorably.

 YARN – Yarn itself can be a true work of skill. The proper twist, balance and uniformity are very important. The lack of vegetable matter, the yarn’s hand and luster, all contribute to the visual and tactile impact the yarn makes. An appropriate suggestion for the yarn’s use should accompany the project.

 Lastly, the committee felt that for small shows, it would be more economical to offer one large combined "Other/Miscellaneous” class  rather than the many classes in the Lama Product division.  Also, exhibitors were bringing in Lama Products which did not fit the standard, existing categories.  These products included macrame jewelry, embroidery, lead ropes and combined art forms. Therefore, the fleece committee is recommending an Other/Misc. Fleece Product class with a new score card.

Motion to approve proposed changes. Motion by Mark, second by Jim. Motion passed unanimaously.

5.  Youth: presented by Ed. No items for approval. The committee is working on the Youth Judging         program, youth program promotion and youth grant programs.

6.  Judges: presented by Beth. Proposals for approval.

VII.  GRANDFATHERED FLEECE JUDGES :  Complete at least one of the two following criteria:

1.       Attend an ILR-SD Fleece Clinic Workshop

2.       Complete a mentorship under an ILR-SD approved fleece teaching judge using one of the following methods:

a.       Mentor with an approved teaching judge at a sanctioned show. 

b.       Mentor with an approved teaching judge by phone conference with the following format:

                                                                           i.      Confer with mentor prior to judging an ILR-SD sanctioned show

                                                                         ii.      Upon completion of judging said show, review with mentor

                                                                        iii.      Additional phone conferencing as mentor/judges committee deems necessary

                                                                       iv.      Mentor will report results to the ILR-SD Judges’ Committee for approval

These recommendations are intended so that all ILR-SD fleece judges can be familiarized with and understand ILR-SD Guidelines.  It will be the responsibility of the judge to attend a seminar or contact a teaching judge for mentorship options.

This should be accomplished not later than December 1, 2011.

VIII.  ILR-SD TEACHING FLEECE JUDGES (approved to accept apprentices)the following steps need to be completed by those wishing to become an approved teaching judge:

1.        Submit letter to ILR-SD Judges’ Committee requesting consideration

a.       Example of teaching experience or reason you feel confident in your ability to assist judges in using & understanding the ILR-SD Guidelines at ILR-SD sanctioned shows.

b.       List at least two ILR-SD fleece shows judged and at least four other activities, such as open or sanctioned shows judged within last 4 years (excluding 4-H or Youth only shows), fleece workshops, conducted educational seminars, speak at lama conferences.

2.        Not be on probation for judging or ethical improprieties

3.       Attend an approved ILR-SD Fleece Judging Clinic or complete a mentorship under an approved teaching judge

It is important that this association is seen as conscientious in approval and training of ILR-SD certified judges, thus assuring exhibitors of qualified and experienced judges.  Following this ONE TIME certification process of Grandfathered fleece qualified judging applicants, the only future specification would be an open book test on ILR-SD guidelines to be completed and returned by February 28 of each year.



A.       To enter program with extensive camelid fleece judging experience:

a.       Attend & pass ILR-SD Fleece Clinic

b.       At least one apprenticeship with ILR-SD Teaching Judge with positive recommendation. May be an approved alternative to a show.

c.       Attend 2nd ILR-SD Fleece Clinic

B.      To enter program with extensive fleece judging with fiber other than camelid:

a.       Attend & pass ILR-SD Fleece Clinic

b.       One to three apprenticeships under ILR-SD Teaching Judge with positive recommendations.  May be a farm experience or other approved event.

c.       Attend 2nd ILR-SD Fleece Clinic

C.      To enter apprenticeship program without prior experience:

a.       Attend & pass ILR-SD Fleece Clinic

b.       At least 3 apprenticeships with positive recommendations or until recommended to attend final Clinic.

c.       Should have evaluated 50 shorn fleeces and 75 fleece on

Motion to approve as listed above. Motion by Fran, second by Pam. Motion passed unanimously.

7.  Halter: presented by Justin. Proposals for approval.

Change 1 –

Section XI:  HALTER

A.     Regular Approved halter classes

Change 2 –

Section   XI:  HALTER

A.     Regular Approved halter classes

f:    ILR-SD sanctioned shows are not required to offer all halter classes. Classes may be combined as needed to achieve adequate numbers for optimal points or if entries in a particular class are very small, or may be split into two classes if entries in a particular division are too large. The goal of combined classes is to compare animals of similar phenotype and fleece characteristics and keep the competition comparable for all competitors.

Motion to approve Change 1and Change 2 motion by Pam, second by Fran. Motion passed passed unanimously.

Change 3 –

Proposed Descriptions for 2011:

Classic – Light Division


1.        Classic –

A.     abundant guard hair visible on the body and neck of the animal, with short and minimal “downy” undercoat

B.     The presence of a guard hair “mane” on the back of the neck.

C.     A natural change in the fleece at the level of the elbow/stifle, with the fleece below this point being very short.

D.     Natural windows of short fleece – brisket, belly, flank.

E.      Minimal Fleece on legs/head with characteristics like guard hair, not the downy undercoat.

2.       Light Wool –

A.     Most will have double coat with moderate density but short length

B.     Fleece coverage should rapidly decline below the elbow/stifle, and be very short below the knee/hock

C.     Most animals will exhibit obvious guard hair that is longer than the undercoat

Medium/Heavy Division:


1.       Medium Wool:

A.     Animals may be double coated with moderate density and length.

B.     Front legs may exhibit coverage extending down the leg with minimal coverage below the knee.

C.     Rear legs may exhibit coverage extending down the leg with minimal coverage below the hock.

2.       Medium Heavy Wool:

A.     Animals will exhibit even neck fleece that does not naturally shed.

B.     Front legs will exhibit coverage down to the knees, potentially down to the toes with a decline in coverage below the knees.

C.     Rear legs will exhibit coverage down to the pastern on the back of the legs with minimal coverage on the front of the legs.

There was much discussion on the third proposed change. Motion to reject Change 3 as submitted. Motion by Beth, second by Jim. Motion passed 8 for, 1 against, and 1 abstention. This item will be returned to the halter committee for continued discussion. The recommendation of the governing board was to have the approved class list include Classic, Light, Medium, Heavy, Extreme Heavy, Silky and Suri. The wording for “shedding” the neck wool is to be re-evaluated as well in the class descriptions.     

Old Business:  none

New Business:            We will need to develop a new executive board when new committee chairs are assigned in 2011. This will be done at the first governing board meeting of 2012 when the new committee chairs are in place.

Next Meeting: Tuesday January 25, 2011 at 8pm EST.

Motion to adjourn at 9:15pm EST: motion by Pam, second by Jim. Motion passed unanimously.

Respectfully submitted,  

Bill Safreed, ILR Vice President