ILR Show Division
YOUTH COMMITTEE Minutes
February 12, 2009
Committee meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. CST on
Thursday, February 12th. Members present were Beth
Myers, Seth Onsager, Debbie Shellabarger, Tabbethia Haubold, and
item of discussion was the possibility of combining age
groups. The committee agreed that the junior group (ages 8 -
11) should not be combined with intermediate and advanced at any
time. If show management feels that there are not significant
numbers to warrant three age groups, then the youth may be split
into two groups instead of three by combining the intermediate
and advanced classes and leaving juniors as a separate class.
(Motion: Tabbethia Haubold, Second: Seth Onsager) The motion
Next to be
discussed was the number of points required to move from
intermediate youth to advanced youth level. The committee
decided that the number should be evaluated at year end to
determine what an appropriate number would be. The group decided
on December 1st as the date to begin evaluating so
that a specific number could be decided on before January.
(Motion: Kelly Gisch, Second: Tabbethia Haubold) The motion
discussion moved to showmanship. The committee is not in
favor of adding performance-type maneuvers to showmanship
classes. They agreed that youth showmanship exhibitors should
not be asked to show teeth, pick up feet, or lift the tail.
Maneuvers that are acceptable include: stand in profile, stand
in line side by side, haunch turn or pivot, ability of judge to
touch the animal, back a few steps and reposition and square up
in front of judge, change positions in line, change animals,
move at a normal to brisk walk, question to exhibitor
appropriate to age and/or level.
(a) In showmanship classes,
appropriate attire is suggested which includes dark slacks,
trousers, jeans or skirts, white/light shirts or tops with
sleeves (tank tops not suggested) and full shoes/boots are
required. No open toes, open backs or open sides of shoes will
(b) Special exception because of
religious reasons or physical handicap must be requested and
approved from show management or judge prior to the class.
(c) Judges, at their discretion,
may authorize adjustments to attire due to weather related
discussion ensued on the topic of allowing youth to show the
same animal in both youth and open division at the
discretion of show management. The committee voted to allow
youth to show the same animal in both youth and open at the
discretion of show management, but only if that animal was not
shared with another youth. (Motion: Tabbethia Haubold, Second:
Seth Onsager) Motion passed with 4 "yes" and 1 "no" vote.
share an animal in youth classes
at the discretion of show management, but the number of youth
sharing one animal in youth classes will be limited to two, in
order to prevent undue stress to the animal. In showmanship,
llamas will not be shared by youth in the same age group since
the youth would be in the ring at the same time. (Motion:
Debbie Shellabarger, Second: Seth Onsager) Motion passed
was made to table youth judging for the time being. The
committee agrees that youth judging should be offered but needs
to put ideas together to determine how best to move forward with
the youth judging program.
A motion was
made to table budget discussion until the next meeting.
(Motion: Tabbethia Haubold, Second: Debbie Shellabarger) Motion
education will be left up to show management discretion at
this time. We will have manuals, a rule book, and educational
materials available in the future. The committee consensus was
to table discussion at this time.
committee also agreed to table discussion of scholarships
at this time.
item on the agenda was whether to require youth classes for
all ILR sanctioned shows. The committee agreed that is
something best left up to show management and we will not
require youth classes to be offered in order for the show to be
sanctioned. (Motion: Debbie Shellabarger, Second: Tabbethia
Haubold) Motion passed unanimously.
discussion moved to whether or not a youth must be an ILR
youth show division member to show in the youth division at
ILR sanctioned shows. The committee is in favor of allowing all
youth to show, but non-members would be required a flat fee of
$5.00 per show in addition to the show entry fees. (Motion:
Debbie Shellabarger, Second: Seth Onsager) Motion carried
decided that a youth may only accumulate ILR points for a
show if the youth is a member at the time of the show.
(Motion: Seth Onsager, Second: Kelly Gisch) Motion passed
agreed that all youth show entries must have a permission
signature from a parent or leader/advisor. The signer must
be at least 18 years of age. If signed by a leader or advisor,
the signer must have a general permission form signed by a
parent or legal guardian on file. Exact wording will be
determined. (Motion: Tabbethia Haubold, Second: Kelly Gisch)
Motion passed unanimously.
may be used in all youth classes.
They will be required to obtain an ILR recording number as
stated in the general rules.
consensus of the committee is that points will be awarded to
all youth placing in a class and all are eligible for
championship at that show, however only youth with paid ILR
membership will be eligible for accumulating points and
receiving year-end awards.
agreed upon that there shall be no additional sanctioning fee
to include youth classes at an ILR sanctioned show. (Motion:
Debbie Shellabarger, Second: Seth Onsager) Motion passed
committee agreed that youth classes should be judged only by
an ILR approved judge.
performance classes must increase in degree of difficulty or
number of obstacles.
Courses must differ by at least three obstacles (either change
of obstacle or degree of difficulty) between each class.
(Motion: Tabbethia Haubold, Second: Seth Onsager) Motion passed
required number of obstacles or maneuvers for youth classes
Juniors : 8
Tabbethia Haubold, Second: Kelly Gisch) Motion passed
are showing in both youth and open, courses must differ by at
consensus of the committee was that the handler may choose
whether or not to negotiate all obstacles.
numbering of obstacles is optional and will be left up to
suggested optional youth (non-point) classes include the
Sub Junior (obstacle, companion,
and showmanship, but not pack)
Non Breeder Halter
Juvenile Male Halter (less than 12 months of age)
Youth Team Challenge
committee agreed to table discussion for the moment to
give time to consider other suggestions
performance champion award will be determined by the best
combined score from 3 classes. Obstacle and companion will
be required classes. The third class may be either showmanship
or pack. If the youth participates in all four classes, the
scores from the obstacle and companion class will always be
used, and the third class will be the highest score from either
the showmanship or pack class. In the case of a tie, the
obstacle class score will be the tiebreaker. The second
tiebreaking score, if needed, will be the companion class.
Sportsmanship will be an optional award
at shows this year. After this year, a year-end Youth
Sportsmanship award will be given. Requirements for the award
will be determined.
It is the
general consensus of the committee that there should be some
mandatory obstacles for youth because we are working with
children and therefore some structure may be needed. The youth
committee will choose approximately 3 or 4 mandatory obstacles
from the list of obstacles the performance committee formulates.
Will discuss further when the list is available.
by Tabbethia Haubold, seconded by Debbie Shellabarger, the
meeting adjourned at 9:55 p.m.
submitted by Kelly Gisch.